>> because this is the dick durbin argument from earlier today. this is what we heard from dick durbin earlier, when he was questioning secretary of state clinton. >> what's the difference? >> weapons of mass destruction and all that. >> what's the difference? >> the bottom line is there were mistakes made. >> dana, hang on. >> there are questions that need to be asked. >> you're not suggesting this as serious as, for example, going to war over a completely false pretext of weapons of mass destruction that turned out not to exist. i mean -- >> oh, goodness, piers, are we going to relitigate this right now? really? >> well, is it? >> really? how do you explain how millions of citizens in iraq and millions of kurds in fact were gassed if that was not a weapon of mass destruction? we can relitigate this six ways to sunday. but the bottom line -- >> we're not relitigating it. it turned out that american and british -- >> we don't know who manipulated these talking points. >> american and british forces went to war on false pretext from both those gove